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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jun 8, 2010 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

I personally fell in love with the dead long before ever dabbling in any mind-altering substances. I didn't "get" the true heart of the music for a while, of course, and it is possible that drugs may have provided a shortcut, but I became truly enlightened without the aid of drugs.

After having listened to the dead in altered states, I have to say that on average it doesn't really make any difference. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. Too much pot and I can't pay attention long enough to be interested; too much lsd and the sonic sensations become unbearably potent and sometimes it's actually painful and unpleasant. To say "you can only truly understand" by taking these drugs is complete hogwash; what a person might be able to say is "i can only understand" - to generalize to everybody else is just narcissism.

The magic of the dead transcends substances, and regardless of its origin, it found a voice that reaches across generations and pulls us in. Drugs are just a different way of listening, but if you are truly open, it really doesn't help one bit to be dosed, and is often just as much of a distraction.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Yes, in my experience, people who were tripping were frequently completely out of it, and those of us who were straight were babysitting them, which could sometimes get annoying. Pot is different. But it always seemed to me, with acid, why not do one or the other: if you're at a Grateful Dead concert, good grief, what more do you want, you hardly need any other input. A Grateful Dead concert *is* a trip.

Conversely, if you're going to trip, the music might be interesting but the contents of your own head are going to keep you very very busy, so why complicate things with music - especially when you might basically miss a great show that way.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

"too much of everything is just enough"

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Well ok there's that. I was never a multitasker LOL.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Once in a while
you get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Tripping does not make for graceful dancing - more like ungraceful falling over folks . Well hydrated and maybe a puff is All you Need ! ( just thinking of Pig there , it's all I need ) Babysitting more then once is just enough .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 8, 2010 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Of course babysitting could be highly entertaining too, I wasn't usually complaining, but it just sometimes seemed like, you're making your own entertainment here, and did you notice there's this great band playing here tonight? and you're not going to be any help with the driving ...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 8, 2010 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

I'm thinking of SDH post , re : opening the Knick . Gonna go listen to 3 - 24 - 90 . That night had the most wild , passionate , free flowing , high energy 'dancing' I've ever seen or been part of . One big dance . Miller has a new source up.

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Poster: BataviaSparky Date: Jun 8, 2010 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: drugs and the dead

Tanks to all 4 input. A thought reading this- if you are one of the 'never dosed one's, then it certainly is not your place to judge those who did and to say that they are too altered to really hear everything, at least that's how I'm taking a few of these responses.
Personally, LSD had a tendency to make me sometimes motionlessly stand in rapt attention listening to every detail of sound billowing from the stage, and I dont think it would've sounded the same or nearly as mesmerizing if was straight. That's sometimes mind you, not always. Other times I could be a "dangerous dancer" - LOOK OUT!